tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post2915625311545595031..comments2023-11-03T11:48:36.234+00:00Comments on Chris Hamer-Hodges: On Darwinism, Creationism and PetitionsChris Hamer-Hodgeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15680998868164693275noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-87258278826502985342007-03-23T05:32:00.000+00:002007-03-23T05:32:00.000+00:00There are some things that cannot be proved in an ...There are some things that cannot be proved in an experimental lab, should they not be discussed in science lessons? You may find you loose a lot of stuff!<BR/>I'd say science is this: notice something, try to explain it, and work out weird situations that will prove or disprove your rule, all the while making it possible to repeat everything you did so it can be checked. As such science is always about the continuous present tense, and anything that happened once and only once is not open to scientific study, unless it had lasting implications that can be repeatedly studied non-destructively.<BR/><BR/>Both the kingdom of God and the creation of the world have this property, as God's words are unshakable. I do an experiment every time I pray for something, wanting to learn more about God through his unusual action. In fact, surely Gideons signs were examples of a scientific methodology, except that he did not ask anyone else to check them.<BR/><BR/>But then do we elevate science too highly? Many features of it are biblical; such as having honest consistent measures and having many councillors, but to measure all knowledge purely on whether it can be proved in a lab is I think a bad idea! Oh and I haven't forgotten about stats, but they seem to have quite a few untested philosophical assumptions so I'm not sure if they can be called science.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-59896971571202710362007-03-22T14:21:00.000+00:002007-03-22T14:21:00.000+00:00Good point, Lawrence. Shakespeare was the first ex...Good point, Lawrence. Shakespeare was the first example that came to mind. Although, the Bible is extremely significant from a literary point of view too - it was the first book ever to be printed and has sold more than any other book, and on this basis alone (appealing to the secularly minded) is worthy of study... but you are absolutely right, to study the Bible merely as literature is to miss the point.<BR/><BR/>History <I>would</I> have been a better analogy.Chris Hamer-Hodgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15680998868164693275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-20647716389417715612007-03-22T14:12:00.000+00:002007-03-22T14:12:00.000+00:00Chris, you're right. Christian believers, too, ne...Chris, you're right. Christian believers, too, need to be educated about Darwinism to be able to discuss intelligently with Darwinism's believers.<BR/><BR/>You could use a better example for a non-scientific academic subject than Shakespeare though. I assume you don't want the Bible taught "as literature." History might make a good alternative example.<BR/><BR/>LGLawrence Gagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01242322119143922513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-9131447875326963092007-03-22T09:31:00.000+00:002007-03-22T09:31:00.000+00:00Chris. Thank you for your coments and I just wante...Chris. Thank you for your coments and I just wanted to add that this is an opportunity for the next generation to be made aware of "other" views. Some folk, like me, have not had the opportunity like youryourself to study Physics and then get a degree [sorry a 1st :-). When it comes to physics all I know is that when a + and - electricity cable is put together on a class mates finger, it makes them jump !!, I think that was physics]. The point being is that our children who are <B><I>GROUNDED </B></I> in Christ will not waiver from what has been taught but will understand that there are many different ideas out there, however it all comes back to Genesis 1. None of these views are new today and have been around for a long time and I'm sure that you've got a verse for them somewhere<BR/><BR/>Every blessing today for you my brother and send our love to your wonderful family.<BR/><BR/>RichardRichard Bentallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08387331100620512498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-33218945565508386692007-03-21T16:33:00.000+00:002007-03-21T16:33:00.000+00:00Here's a petition that I was happy to sign.Here's a <A HREF="http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/Christians/" REL="nofollow">petition</A> that I was happy to sign.Chris Hamer-Hodgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15680998868164693275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-13008682012506346312007-03-21T13:45:00.000+00:002007-03-21T13:45:00.000+00:00You know, I was discussing this very topic with a ...You know, I was discussing this very topic with a friend last night, and saying the exact same thing. My only issue with Evolution in education is that it's taught as fact (which is faith - believing in a theory as fact), when it should be taught as what it is - theory (which requires scientific study, and no mention of faith). Teaching any theory as fact is bad science.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com