tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post4383637658972312292..comments2023-11-03T11:48:36.234+00:00Comments on Chris Hamer-Hodges: Yet because you say...Chris Hamer-Hodgeshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15680998868164693275noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-58798206381587224542006-12-22T18:28:00.000+00:002006-12-22T18:28:00.000+00:00Chris, I would suggest we are in even more danger ...Chris, I would suggest we are in even more danger form theologies which do not allow us to press far enough. <br /><br />Note the growing "orthodoxy" of dispensationalism: some who hold that theology cannot concede that anyone can be saved if they are not premillenial dispensationists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-80895663472100324362006-12-22T14:17:00.000+00:002006-12-22T14:17:00.000+00:00Wow! I'm impressed that you managed to mis-quote y...Wow! I'm impressed that you managed to mis-quote yourself! ;o)<br /><br />And your words re-enforce that <a href = "http://confessionsofadoubtingthomas.blogspot.com">my blog</a> is not theology, as I am quite happy to speculate about all sorts of things which go beyond that which is revealed in the bible (or elsewhere). But that is why I am happy to present such speculation as <i>doubts</i> and am not dogmatic about any of the 'out there' theories which I occasionally discuss.Ricky Carvelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975085318645232701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-44777086006445246632006-12-22T09:48:00.000+00:002006-12-22T09:48:00.000+00:00I've located the actual quote now. It was another ...I've located the actual quote now. It was another theologian's synopsis... but I was quite surprised to discover whose!<br /><br /><i>It is the job of theology to wrestle with the mystery of God, to press in on truth from all angles, as far as we are permitted to go, without going beyond what is revealed.<br /><br />~ Chris Hamer-Hodges, Barth on the Trinity (Essay for Covenant College 1997)</i>Chris Hamer-Hodgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15680998868164693275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-8621227741139691452006-12-22T09:25:00.000+00:002006-12-22T09:25:00.000+00:00Ricky, I like your theology analogy. I reminds me ...Ricky, I like your theology analogy. I reminds me of a quote I came across when studying the work of Karl Barth at Bible college. I can't remember whether the quote is from Barth himself or another theologian giving a synopsis of his views. I've not been able to find the quote again, so from memory it goes something like this:<br /><br /><i>"The purpose of theology is to press in, down every available avenue of revelation, as far as is permissible, towards the unkowable nature of God."</i> <br /><br />The problem with some "theologies" is they have pressed in further than is permissible down some avenues and ignored others all together.<br /><br />That's why its always better to stay faithful to the Word than any theological system. The Word is infallible, but even the best system of man is not.Chris Hamer-Hodgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15680998868164693275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-21832708191626595462006-12-22T08:55:00.000+00:002006-12-22T08:55:00.000+00:00Jojo,
Chris and I don't see eye to eye on a numb...Jojo, <br /><br />Chris and I don't see eye to eye on a number of minor issues. But we both have the same Lord and God. There's loads of common ground there!<br /><br />If you only have friends who have exactly the same beliefs as you then you probably have quite a dull life. It also seriously cuts down on your potential to spread the gospel!<br /><br />The aim of <a href = "http://confessionsofadoubtingthomas.blogspot.com">my blog</a> is not to <i>start fires</i> but to raise issues that either I have doubts about or issues that I don't think many Christians have thought through.<br /><br />Professionally speaking, of course, I am equally adept at mitigating, suppressing and extinguishing fires as I am at starting them. ;o)<br /><br />As far as trying a different theology is concerned, I'm not sure I want to. From my (non-theology-trained) perspective, any given <i>theology</i> is a certain way of looking at the nature of God. Its like viewing a mountain from a given viewpoint - the mountain is not changed by where you choose to view it from, but if you only ever look from the one place, you may miss out on all the other (equally valid) views of the mountain. It is entirely appropriate that some folk prefer the view from one viewpoint compared to another, but that doesn't make either viewpoint <i>right</i> or <i>wrong</i>. And for myself, I'd just quite like to climb the mountain rather than stand about merely looking.Ricky Carvelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17975085318645232701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-8479778376784327542006-12-21T12:51:00.000+00:002006-12-21T12:51:00.000+00:00Good Post Chris!Good Post Chris!Gavin Whitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14157834897720246215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-865891538988381402006-12-21T09:34:00.000+00:002006-12-21T09:34:00.000+00:00Hi, jojo.
As I mentioned on Ricky's blog, you are ...Hi, jojo.<br />As I mentioned on Ricky's blog, you are too quick to jump to conclusions!<br /><br />Ricky is an old and good friend of mine who I have known since I was a wee lad.<br /><br />We don't have to agree on every issue for me to consider him a friend, or to take an interest in what he writes. <br /><br />Neither of us would claim for a moment to see eye to eye on every issue, but where we do I'm not afraid to say so!<br /><br />My loyalty is to my friends and to the Word of God; no theological system, no matter how sound, can take the place of either!Chris Hamer-Hodgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15680998868164693275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-24371647798260429122006-12-21T00:56:00.000+00:002006-12-21T00:56:00.000+00:00I don't understand how you and Ricky can see eye t...I don't understand how you and Ricky can see eye to eye on theological issues. He is good at starting fires, but doesn't know how to quench them. You try to put out fires, yet a smoldering ember of doubt remains. He purports to seek pure truth, you seem bent on obedience. Have either of you guys tried reformed theology?jojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10818468070069090592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-89583233735772445442006-12-20T15:24:00.000+00:002006-12-20T15:24:00.000+00:00Absolutely. Ananias in Acts 9 and Peter in Acts 10...Absolutely. Ananias in Acts 9 and Peter in Acts 10 are other great examples of this.<br /><br />God knows our reservations whether we voice them or not. It's much better to take them to God, and allow him to deal with them.Chris Hamer-Hodgeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15680998868164693275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9405828.post-27360936976340993302006-12-20T15:17:00.000+00:002006-12-20T15:17:00.000+00:00I'm glad we have the example of Gideon. God reall...I'm glad we have the example of Gideon. God really doesn't mind us asking "are you sure?" As long as the ultimate response is obedience.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16756811544716924557noreply@blogger.com